From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NxPbC-0005L4-2Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:58:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9815CE0954; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D29E0900 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654801B41A3 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so27639bwz.26 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.74.163 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100401183216.04e0753e@snowmobile> References: <20100401183216.04e0753e@snowmobile> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:58:29 +0300 Received: by 10.204.156.213 with SMTP id y21mr1798114bkw.195.1270148309564; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't turn this into a pissing match. (was: pkg_pretend USE validation and VALID_USE alternative) From: Dror Levin To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cf8a0cdc0d30483317215 X-Archives-Salt: af567d59-92d4-4f32-a803-0a0a467ac28b X-Archives-Hash: 23229c1a7a77017713c8fdf4608c01e3 --0015175cf8a0cdc0d30483317215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 20:32, Ciaran McCreesh < ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote: > In that case, why would you like to see VALID_USE as well as > pkg_pretend? Why not just use pkg_pretend, which is already in EAPI 4 > and which can do everything VALID_USE can do plus several useful things > that it can't? > > With pkg_pretend you can do VALID_USE using a simple eclass... > With pkg_pretend you can also implement USE deps, would you like to abolish them as well? This is data and should be treated as such. Using code to describe it is possible but suboptimal, if there's a suggestion that allows for describing this as data rather than with code then it is superior for all the reasons already stated. Dror Levin --0015175cf8a0cdc0d30483317215 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 20:32, Ciaran McCreesh <ciara= n.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:
In that case, why would you like to see VALID_USE as well as
pkg_pretend? Why not just use pkg_pretend, which is already in EAPI 4
and which can do everything VALID_USE can do plus several useful things
that it can't?

With pkg_pretend you can do VALID_USE using a simple eclass...
With pkg_pretend you can also implement USE deps, would you like t= o abolish them as well? This is data and should be treated as such. Using c= ode to describe it is possible but suboptimal, if there's a suggestion = that allows for describing this as data rather than with code then it is su= perior for all the reasons already stated.

Dror Levin
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