From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ny7L8-0002la-9d for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:40:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E91BE095B; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.apserver.co.uk (server2.alteredperspective.co.uk [212.13.194.103]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3732BE08DD for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.apserver.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCA716D4DC for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:40:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.apserver.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server2.alteredperspective.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dpTgDGQpFSWm for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:40:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (cpc2-ashf2-0-0-cust203.asfd.cable.ntl.com [81.109.96.204]) by mail.apserver.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8489A16D4DB for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:40:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4BB77D99.3090105@allenjb.me.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:40:41 +0100 From: AllenJB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20091105 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5272e251-d377-43db-bd70-ec89c8e7f7e0 X-Archives-Hash: 9e1e93fbf38f8d1f67a396a01c338c0f On 03/04/10 14:40, Dror Levin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Groot wrote: >> 2 - maintainers >> =============== >> >> Who is volunteering for maintaining the wiki? We need editors and >> moderators, people who look out for quality control and take care of >> spam removal. So let's get together a team. I'm sure if we ask on the >> forums we'll get some users interested as well. > I volunteer. Spam shouldn't be that much of an issue if editing is > restricted to registered users, but it is a good idea to have a team > of moderators similar to the one that exists for the forums (of course > users can take part of it as well as developers). > Most of the spam on gentoo-wiki.com comes from registered accounts. Requiring registration does not stop most wiki spam. Very little of the spam comes in from unregistered editors. On gentoo-wiki.com we currently use a combination of anti-spam tools, which seems to work best. The main 2, from a day-to-day administration view are the url blacklist and manual removal of spam and associated accounts. You could require email authentication first, but I believe this is unlikely to reduce spam - creating a setup that automatically deals with account verification emails is trivial and throwaway accounts are too easy to get hold of. In addition I believe it would reduce the amount of positive contribution more than it reduces spam - I believe people often want to make quick, small corrections / additions and telling them to "come back later" is going to be the same as telling them "go away". I would highly recommend using MediaWiki as, at least from my experience, it's the most prevalent of the wiki setups available. While this may bring some disadvantages (number of spam attempts (tho I'm nottotally convinced you'll get less than any other web form out there), etc), it also brings the advantages of being well developed with a wide variety of plugins, lots of wiki syntax guides / tutorials you can point users to and a wide userbase with existing knowledge of the syntax. AllenJB