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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont  require it
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:54:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA39032.6020302@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003191134.27046.Arfrever@gentoo.org>

Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2010-03-19 11:13:48 Dale napisał(a):
>    
>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>      
>>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500
>>> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>>> It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having this
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> OK.  Right now, as you type this, what package depends on python-3
>>>> and won't work with python-2?  Anything at all?  If it is nothing,
>>>> then why install it?
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> And that's where you're making the mistake: you're treating Python as
>>> being different from every other package.
>>>
>>> In every other case, you want things to be using the newest version of a
>>> slotted package where possible. Why aren't you complaining that you were
>>> forced to install gcc 4.3 and 4.1 when 3.4 worked just fine?
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Because, when I installed gcc 4.3, I could then unmerge the old gcc.
>> That's why I didn't complain about that.  With python, we still have to
>> have the current version plus the new version which is not being used at
>> all.
>>
>> Am I not correct in that?  If the new python is installed, what exactly
>> is going to use it?  I used the new gcc.  It worked fine.  I unmerged
>> the old one with no wasted space and one less package installed.  This
>> doesn't appear to be the case with python-3 tho.  It's going to be
>> installed and just sit there like a rock.
>>      
> Python 3 is used during installation of packages, which support Python 2 and
> Python 3 and support installation for multiple Python ABIs. You can directly
> execute scripts with "-3.1" suffix (e.g. "bpython-3.1" or "coverage-3.1")
> to use Python 3.1 even when Python 2.* is set as main active version of Python.
>
>    

But again, if it will work with python2 then you don't need python3.  So 
you still don't need it installed just as has been said many times.

Dale

:-)  :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-19 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 19:20 [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it Thomas Sachau
2010-03-18 19:24 ` Fabian Groffen
2010-03-18 20:27   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-18 20:53     ` Doktor Notor
2010-03-18 22:09       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-03-18 22:17       ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-19  8:12         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-19  8:54           ` Dale
2010-03-19  8:57             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-19  9:23               ` Dale
2010-03-19  9:30                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-19 10:13                   ` Dale
2010-03-19 10:34                     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-19 14:54                       ` Dale [this message]
2010-03-20  0:51                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-20  9:56                       ` Jean-Marc Hengen
2010-03-20 12:53                         ` Zac Medico
2010-03-20 14:11                       ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-22 21:12                         ` Jacob Godserv
2010-03-23 15:37                           ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-23 16:15                             ` Duncan
2010-03-20 12:47                     ` Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-03-19  9:35                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-19  9:39                   ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-19  9:55                     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-19  9:56                       ` Brian Harring
2010-03-19 10:01                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-19 10:27                           ` Brian Harring
2010-03-19  9:40                 ` Brian Harring
2010-03-19 15:13               ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-03-19 18:26                 ` Alec Warner
2010-03-20 12:42                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-03-19  5:35     ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2010-03-19  7:15       ` Dale
2010-03-19  7:58         ` Zac Medico
2010-03-19  8:52           ` Dale
2010-03-19  9:09             ` Zac Medico
2010-03-19 22:28             ` Alistair Bush
2010-03-19 15:02               ` Dale
2010-03-19 15:21                 ` Doktor Notor
2010-03-18 19:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-18 19:43   ` Thomas Sachau
2010-03-18 20:02     ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-18 20:10       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-18 20:57         ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-18 20:21       ` Thomas Sachau
2010-03-18 21:00         ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-18 21:06           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-18 21:45           ` Thomas Sachau
2010-03-18 19:33 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-18 19:47   ` Thomas Sachau
2010-03-18 19:55     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-18 20:13       ` Thomas Sachau
2010-03-18 21:40         ` Brian Harring
2010-03-20 12:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-03-20 14:07   ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

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