From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NycAz-0007Ph-4S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 02:36:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38071E0A82; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter68.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter68.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.68]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D46E0A5C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:36:21 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroFAObpuEt2XJBY/2dsb2JhbACPVIt4crI9hQcEiyo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,364,1267354800"; d="scan'208";a="270950592" Received: from 118-92-144-88.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO linux.localnet) ([118.92.144.88]) by smtp.mailfilter5.ihug.co.nz with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 05 Apr 2010 14:39:24 +1200 From: Alistair Bush Organization: Gentoo Linux To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:36:19 +1200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.2 (Linux/2.6.32-gentoo; KDE/4.4.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <4BB7484F.30002@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4BB7484F.30002@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004051436.19895.ali_bush@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 648c9ebf-c663-4fa9-b420-0dd0b16e617f X-Archives-Hash: d62e6a4ee9215aae52e0ef41a96063af > On 4/3/10 3:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > > Are there any other ideas on how to improve our recruitment process? > > The idea appeared before, but I think it's worth noting. > > Either merge the ebuild and end quizzes, or make the split actually > meaningful. In my case I just finished both at the same time, but was > confused why they are separate. I think I've seen similar comments from > other developers. > > I think I'd rather prefer merging the quizzes. One thing i've noticed is that the ebuild quiz is far more difficult than the eom quiz. We seem to have the biggest hurdle first. What I would like to see is either the quizzes be merged or.... An "easier" first quiz that covers the basics which after being answered the user can become a gentoo developer ( ie @gentoo.org email, ssh access to d.g.o, etc) but no access to push directly to the tree. Instead all commits must be pushed thru their mentor, who is responsible for qa'ing and giving advice. Currently I don't think mentors really have much of a role. There is certainly no requirement for a mentor to qa their charges commits, but if they are the ones pushing to the tree the mentor has all the responsibility. This might just make mentors more responsible for the quality of recruits. Some of this could be done regardless of whether there are separate quizzes or not obviously. But I think it creates a nice workflow. - Alistair.