From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nv8jJ-0006wV-VR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:33:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 822FAE0867; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp02.jazztel.es (smtp02.jazztel.es [62.14.3.171]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07638E081F for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [87.222.150.253] (helo=[192.168.1.201]) by smtp02.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nv8f4-0003p0-AD for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:29:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item From: Pacho Ramos To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4BACA420.6090602@gentoo.org> References: <4BAB8352.1060004@gentoo.org> <1269594148.7067.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4BACA420.6090602@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Pg+E/mT3JAgNXLHUYI7v" Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:33:19 +0100 Message-Id: <1269606800.7067.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-Archives-Salt: a23d3957-06aa-4637-b506-59e8aef2405e X-Archives-Hash: 51a1a73547dbd4f1389cc1cb44289b22 --=-Pg+E/mT3JAgNXLHUYI7v Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 26-03-2010 a las 05:10 -0700, Zac Medico escribi=C3=B3: > > Hello > >=20 > > Maybe I have misunderstood anything (since I don't know much about > > python stuff) but, what would occur if I forget to mask python-3 and > > don't run python-updater. My plans would be to try to delay > > python-updater running until I switch to use python3, because some > > machines I maintain are quite old and takes some time to re-emerge all > > python apps :-/ > >=20 > > Thanks for the info >=20 > If you don't want to run python-updater, then you'd better mask > python3 and uninstall it. Otherwise, you'll encounter build failures > due to new packages trying to build for python3 when their > dependencies haven't been rebuilt with python3 support. There's no > harm done since it's easy to mask and uninstall python3 at this > point, thereby avoiding the need to run python-updater. Thanks a lot Zac for the explanation Arfrever, could this be noted in news item? I mean, since you are clearly in favor of python3 stabilization, you have prepared news item and *seems to me* that you prefer to not suggest or "recommend" its local masking in that news item, maybe you could find a way to write news informing users that they will need mask new python if they prefer to postpone python-updater run (since I think some users, like me, will prefer to not rebuild lots of packages until most of them will work with newer python), that way it wouldn't "sound" as much like a "generic recommendation" but more like a needed step for users not wanting to run python-updater yet (that would be like a "special case" common enough to take care of it). Would it be ok for you? Maybe that way most of us could reach a consensus on this :-) Thanks a lot --=-Pg+E/mT3JAgNXLHUYI7v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkusqY8ACgkQCaWpQKGI+9RUfACfW9B9Ci/LpasGKDK6Hq3sPxzk 6gkAnjKitiT6pjSdUDMqvSH+VTl9srst =/hYi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Pg+E/mT3JAgNXLHUYI7v--